Conversations With Kav – It’s Canada Library Month! So Let’s Talk Libraries + Giveaway

It’s Canada Library Month and this upcoming third week in October is Ontario Public Library Week so now is a perfect time to talk about libraries and how they benefit authors (besides the obvious.)

But first – after all the talk about favourite autumn beverages last week and discovering so many fellow hot chocolate aficionados in our midst, I thought it would be fun to set up a Hot Chocolate Bar. Cocoa for the traditionalist, flavoured hot chocolate pkgs for the adventureous and your choice of toppings, marshmallows (we have regular and vegan), shaved dark chocolate pieces and peppermint stir sticks. Do help yourself. Oh, and, in honour of library month, I’ve made gingerbread librarians. Do be kind and bite the head off first so they can’t watch the dismemberment of their bodies. 🙂

How Libraries Benefit an Author’s Bottom Line

Of course, we know that authors get a royalty payment for every book a library buys and that’s wonderful. Also an important reason for readers to request libraries to purchase titles they don’t already carry. My library allows for three requests per patron a month and I’m happy to say that the library has purchased nearly every book I’ve asked for – sometimes in multiple copies!

Recently though, I got to wondering about what kind of financial benefits there are to digital library purchases. I assumed that it would be similar to physical books and it kinda is…but also not quite. Here’s how authors make money when a book is checked out on Libby and Hoopla:

The library buys a license for an ebook or audiobook which covers x amount of checkouts (usually around 26.) Once they’ve reached their limit they have to buy another license. Each time a license is purchased, the author receives a royalty. So, the more times a book is checked out on Libby, there is the potential for more times a library buys a license and that means more $ for the author. A library often buys multiple copies of popular titles.

Operates on a Cost-Per-Checkout system – the author gets a small amount of money per checkout. You don’t have to even read the book. You just have to check it out. The amount an author earns per checkout is somewhere between 40 – 80 cents which sounds really low BUT when you take into consideration the number of Hoopla accounts across North America, it has the potential to add up to a nice tidy sum and the author doesn’t have to put any money, time or effort into the process – that’s all done by the library and Hoopla, so it’s kind of a bonus.

Interestingly enough all this works the same way for both ebooks and audiobooks on both platforms. Audiobooks cost the library more – around $50 – $75 per book, but that also means a larger royalty for the author, so they actually could make more money on audiobooks. It also explains why my library buys more ebooks than audiobooks on both platforms.

My library has just buddied up with a number of other public libraries in Ontario on the Libby app which means I have access to all their collections as well. I’ve been able to access audiobooks that my library doesn’t carry so I’m uber excited. Plus, now I’m thinking of the boon to authors since the number of checkouts is bound to increase across the board which means more royalties for the authors! Woohoo!

Let’s Chat:

Are you a library user? Have you looked into Libby and Hoopla? They are truly a great free source for ebooks and audiobooks so, even if you don’t live close to a library or want to actually visit the building, you can still borrow from home and contribute to authors’ income. Every little bit helps!

Oh — and I’m curious – how many monthly borrows do you get on Hoopla? My library’s limit is 5 per month and it’s agonizing choosing which five books to pick from a long list of potential borrows. lol I usually used up all my credits before the middle of the month.

The Giveaway:

Draw will be held and winner announced on Saturday October 24 2026

55 thoughts on “Conversations With Kav – It’s Canada Library Month! So Let’s Talk Libraries + Giveaway”

  1. I normally do not check out digital or audiobooks but it isn’t because of lack of content. My library belongs to a consortium of libraries so there are so many titles available. This was one of the new perks being offered to our patrons when I retired!

    Once upon a time, before budgets were so drastically cut, we purchased 4 copies of each new release from popular authors. One went to the bookmobile collection and the other 3 were put in the library. This helped with the hold list and then, in the next year or two, two of them would go into the library book sale. In the past few years, I’ve noticed that there are only 2 copies purchased initially!

    Love your thought of Hit Chocolate Bar but I admit to being a bit of a snob about my hot chocolate! I may try a little peppermint or caramel flavoring, and I absolutely love vanilla ice cream floating on top, but I will always choose pure hot chocolate!

    Happy Canada Library Month!

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    1. Libraries banding together to provide more options to their patrons is a great way to help the budget stretch. I currently have three audiobooks checked out from three different libraries through my libby app. So exciting – and will be a boon to each library’s circ stats as well.

      Yay — I’m a traditionalist too when it comes to hot chocolate. I make mine from cocoa and heat up the milk on the stove before whisking it together with a wee bit of sugar. I’ve never ever thought about putting vanilla ice cream in my hot chocolate though. That’s kind of mind blowing! 🙂 Good luck, Connie!

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  2. Even for a very small town, but because we are the county seat, we do have a library. I do visit on occasion, but most of the books I read are mine – those I’ve bought an on occasion one I’ve won. Since I can only read paperbacks due to medical issues, I’ve never used any of of those services, but finding out who they work and how it affects the author was very interesting.

    Have a fabulous day and a blessed upcoming week!

    2clowns at arkansas dot net

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  3. Thanks for letting us know the financial benefits to authors for digital (& other) library purchases. Interesting! When I’m on a street team they always ask you to call nearby libraries & request they order the book & I wondered why. I honestly did not know authors get royalties from library book orders. I mean of course they would! Duhh… Seems they’d simply make more money if consumers bought them from booksellers instead of getting them free from the library was my way of thinking. So now I’ve learned something I should’ve already known. 🙃

    Our library has a nice section of CF but I haven’t been there in a long while bc of health stuff. Hopefully there’s a whole lot more CF books in it now! dianalflowers at aol dot com

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    1. Requesting libraries order books is such a simple thing to do but I never though of doing it until I really got into Christian Fiction – which was crazy since I worked in a library and should have known better. 🙂 Hope you get to scope out the library collection in person soon, Diane. It’s long past time for complete healing for you! Gentle hugs. And good luck!

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  4. Very interesting topic! I appreciate learning more about the libraries in your area and will look forward to comments from others. I have always been actively involved with my library as a frequent patron as well as usually being a member of the Friends group. Our local Friends has an annual book sale to help raise additional funds.

    With aging eyes (over 50) and evidently with some publishers perhaps trying to cut costs a little more, I have found the print in some books lighter and more uncomfortable to read. I have heard others comment on that in several author newsletter or blog comment sections. I do most of my reading now on a Kindle Paperwhite. Probably about two thirds of my reading on the Kindle is from Libby/Overdrive from my library. My library (community of about 22,000) is part of small group of similar communities which shares ebooks on Libby. You can only check out or put a handful of titles on hold. I remember a conversation a few years ago with the adult librarian, as I always had the habit of suggesting titles. Since he knew I had a business background, he was explaining to me at that time ebooks were more expensive for the library to acquire in relation to print books. I don’t know if that is still the case.

    I enjoy simple, traditional hot chocolate!

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    1. I think I might try joining the Friends of the Library — they mainly stock and organize the used bookstore section. I hear you on the light print…sometimes it seems gray rather than black…and smaller font size too. Some books I don’t even try to read. I’ve wondered about what’s more expensive to buy – print or ebook. It depends on the usage, I guess. Like the print book could have multiple users over years with only minor repairs occasionally needed until the book would have to be replaced Ebooks don’t wear down but libraries have to purchase them through a license that only allows so many checkouts — so, I guess the print book is more cost effective for the library, the ebooks and audio may be more profitable for the author/publisher, in the long run, anyway. I guess it also depends on how patrons use the library as well. I can only imagine the nightmare librarians go through trying to achieve a balance on a nonexistent budget! Yay to traditional hot chocolate! I’ve just enjoyed a cuppa, though I did add marshmallows. for an extra tread. 🙂 Good luck, CC!

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  5. I mostly go to the library to request they purchase the books I am influencing for or I really liked. Sometimes I request they purchase books I missed getting. They purchase 80% of the books I ask for. They have a wide reach for inter library loans.

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      1. Now that’s interesting – that you request books you already have access to. I do it the opposite way, using my library as a way to flesh out my book buying budget. I ask them to order books I want to read but don’t have copies of, then I cross those titles off my wishlist since I’ll be able to read a library copy when it comes in. Helps narrow down my purchasing choices. 🙂 Good luck, Paula!

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  6. We have a pretty big regional library system, encompassing 33 libraries, each in a different town, and one city serves as the central hub that coordinates the passing and purchasing of books. However, I can request a physical book from almost any library in the state of Minnesota, thanks to coordination between library systems, and have it delivered to me, provided it doesn’t have a wait list or was published in the last year or so. There have been several times the interlibrary loan system has put up a fuss (the book being new or popular), and our library system notified me they were just going to buy the book rather than attempt borrowing it.

    Thus our library system is very good about purchasing requests, but there is definitely a preference for physical books. Our Libby options are far, far reduced from our physical options; it’s pretty rare that we have an ebook that there isn’t also a physical copy for, so mostly I use Libby for audiobooks. But again, there are very few compared to physical copies. My mother in law is in a different library system (same state), and they have significantly more ebooks available on Libby than we do.

    ~Rachael
    rdalquist AT gmail DOT com

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    1. This is so interesting, Rachael – the differences between different library systems within the same state. Yours sounds like a dream and I love that the emphasis is on physical books. We have a pretty good interlibrary loan system too though I haven’t used it very much. I should check into it more. I guess I think of interlibrary loans as a tool for researchers and students, not for fiction, which is silly. Might be a new way to expand my reading horizons! Thanks for the inspiration. Good luck, Rachael!

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  7. Love this conversation and knowing that authors get $$ from the library! Not entering the giveaway though, just chiming in. I get 14 borrows from Hoopla, and then I have 10 flex borrows (I don’t know what that is) a month. I think I can have 100 physical books out. Libby is a different animal, I have one ebook checked out from there, only because I couldn’t find it anywhere else. I don’t normally find many books I want on Libby, it’s weird. Have a great weekend, and happy listening/reading 🙂 And, I typically go to the library once a week, during busier times, every 2-3 weeks. Our Christian fiction section is phenomenal, so I also buy less books.

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    1. whoooooaaaaaa!!!!! 14 borrows a month on hoopla?! And ten flex borrows? I’m 5 and 5, though I’ve never used the flex borrows – they are usually trending and best seller kinds of fiction that I’m not interested in. As I understand it, regular hoopla borrows are books that can be checked out by multiple people at the same time while flex borrows are one book per borrower so there’s often a wait list and you can put them on hold…but I’ve never found anything that appealed to me anyway. I don’t think my library has a cap on borrowing books – I usually have between 20 and 30 at any given time 🙂 Your library sounds fabulous, Cindy. Hooray for a great Christian Fiction collection. Happy Reading!

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  8. Kav, I do use my library at times. We have a fairly small community (a little under 9,000) so our library doesn’t have many of the books I’m looking for, but I can get them via the interlibrary loan so am thankful for that. I prefer physical copies of books so haven’t looked into the options for ebooks and audiobooks. Btw, I love your hot chocolate bar idea 🙂 And how thoughtful of you to tell us to bite the heads off the librarian cookies first! LOL!

    ckbarker at gmail dot com

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    1. I couldn’t live without visiting a library at least once a week. When I was looking for a place to move to one of my criteria was a library within walking distance. 🙂 I’m not fond of ebooks either. Good luck, Diane!

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  9. I do use the library but mostly for paper or hardback editions.  I do not use library audio because it takes me too long to listen and I prefer to read along anyway.  I will purchase a few favorite authors to read along with audio, just as a treat.  I do occasionally use the library e-book options which are Hoopla and Libby (mostly Libby). Hoopla is not compatible with my Kindle Paperwhite so I would have to use my iPad which defeats the purpose of having a Kindle.  I like the small size of the Kindle over the larger iPad. I have used Libby on occasion and like it.  Hoopla has a limit of 4 items per month and Libby has a 10-item limit per month.  Physical copies of books and movies have checkout limits of 50 items at a time, not per month!  I am seeing that the library is ordering more e-books and audiobooks, but with the limits I’m not sure why.  That seems to happen even if you make a request for a paper copy.  Maybe it’s cheaper but I don’t think audiobooks are inexpensive.  Sometimes they get only audio which I find puzzling because of the cost.

    Thank you for educating us on revenue for authors’ electronic items.  I had no idea!

    Happy Canada Library Month!

    perrianne (DOT) askew (AT) me (DOT) com

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    1. I’ve heard other people say they like to read and listen at the same time but I can’t do that. My eyeballs keep reading ahead and the story gets muddled! 🙂 I don’t think the Canadian Kindle is compatible with Libby or Hoopla which is a shame. We have a Canadian equivalent – the Kobo from our big box bookstore, Indigo, and you can read ebooks from the library on that though. I find more audiobooks that I want to read on Hoopla than Libby, but with a five book limit per month that doesn’t get me very far. Though now that my library has started this cooperation with other Ontario libraries I’m finding more audio books I’m interested in, especially in the cozy mystery genre. We don’t have a limit other than ten Libby checkouts at a time and twenty holds. I’d love to go to a library conference and hear a panel talk about the intricacies of purchasing digital resources – I’m nerdy enough to find that topic interesting. 🙂 Good luck, Perrianne!

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      1. I’m hearing impaired which is probably why I like to read along otherwise I will miss something. I do have to stop to pick up what I missed on occasion.

        I don’t care much for library limits but I imagine it impacts you more than me. It’s funny that each library system has its own rules. Canada has different reading platforms, too but I love my Kindle.

        I’d definitely go to that conference with you just to be nosy. We could get into lots of trouble!

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  10. I love my library and utilize both Libby and Hoopla, especially Libby because I prefer to read on my kindle Paperwhite. I think the limits changed to 10 holds and 20 checkouts at a time, so at times I have to use my husband’s card too😊. I can recommend 5 books per month through my library app and have had pretty good results. It seems that some recent books are being ordered in audio only instead of ebook format especially in Hoopla, which I don’t prefer but it must be popular. A lot of my book purchases are books that I’ve read on Libby or Hoopla, so I know they’re keepers. Hubby thinks that’s weird, but it works for me!

    Happy Library month

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    1. Ooooh, no fair you have more than one card per household! lol We used to be able to recommend five books per month but they stopped letting us do requests during COVID and when things returned to normal again they switched it to only 3 recommendations a month and they take much longer to process the requests so you’re on tenterhooks wondering if the books will be approved or not. Oh, the high drama of an avid reader! Interesting that you are noticing more audiobooks vs ebooks on hoopla. That would make me happy. It’s curious because audiobooks cost more but maybe the demand is so high now? I totally understand the lure of keeper books plus, at the price of books these days you want to know for certain you’re going to love it before buying it! Makes total senses to me. Good luck, Sandy!

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  11. I live in a small midwestern town with a nice library but the budget is limited. The library board made the decision about a year ago to discontinue Hoopla because the price was just getting too expensive. Libby is still available but the price for that is rather high too (or it seems to be to me). I don’t use Libby. I prefer to check out actual physical books and am thankful for our interlibrary loan program so I can usually obtain what I want, though I have to wait several months for new books to be available. Our library will begin Phase 2 of an expansion/remodeling in a few months so our Friends of the Library group has helped with fundraising for that. We also hold a used booksale each summer and give some of the proceeds to the library to use for buying new books. We are fortunate to receive monetary donations for new books also. The digital age has certainly brought changes to our libraries. I am thankful that our authors are receiving revenue from the ebooks and audio books.

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    1. I’d heard of some libraries in small towns in my area discontinuing Hoopla because of the cost earlier this year as well. My own library system has hoopla but only for ebooks and movies, no audiobooks, however I was able to get a free card from another library system in the province in order to use their hoopla, which is so strange. Can’t figure out how they can afford to do that but I’m glad they do! For some reason Libby seems to be more affordable, at least libraries don’t seem to be cutting its service. I really need to see if I can get involved in the Friends of the Library this year. Sounds like fun and a great way to get to know fellow readers. Good luck, Pam!

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  12. Interesting subject, Kav! Our little town library has just finished a remodeling and enlarging, including adding a community center. It opens tomorrow, so I’m interested in visiting and seeing what it looks like now. It’s only a little over half a mile from me, so it’s even within walking distance if I don’t want to drive. In addition to the regular library services, they have classes for all ages–STEAM classes for youth, an adult book club, chess and LEGO clubs, cooking and sewing classes, art classes, story times for toddlers and young children, even Bingo nights. They even have a Makerspace where people can do 3D printing, audio/video digitizing, book and photo scanning. I don’t know if there’s a limit on number of books a person can check out. The Overdrive e-book/audio lending library has a 15 book limit at a time, so when I return a book, I can borrow another. I can also place holds for books I want to read.

    Residents of the town can access the library for free, but if a non-resident wants a card it’s $125/year. When we lived in the Salt Lake City area, they had a county-wide library system. It was wonderful, because we could request books, and they’d send them to your local library to pick up. We could also pick them up at any of the libraries and return them to our local one. In the county we live in now, each community has their own library and non-residents have to pay fairly expensive fees each year. Some of the smaller libraries charge $25/year for non-residents.

    I do a lot of reading/reviewing/launch teams for authors, so I usually have enough books to read. I also occasionally borrow one from Overdrive. It’s nice to have a lot of options.

    whthomas13 at yahoo dot com

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    1. Oooh, that’s exciting! Love the idea of a community centre being attached to it. We’ve really changed our concept of what a library is as reflected in your description of all the different things your library offers. Your library is amazing! And I find it interesting how each of library systems vary in the number of digital borrows we can have. It seems so random! Whoa that’s a huge non-resident fee! Ours are usually around $30 for a year. There’s a new library being built — a combination main city library and National library — and it’s quite spectacular looking. I think it opens early next year. I might be able to walk it…on a good day…but it’s about a ten minute bus ride door to door so I’m excited visit it occasionally as well as my smaller little branch closer to me. Love the different options our public library brings into our reading lives! Good luck, Winnie!

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  13. Happy Library Month!

    I read MOSTLY Kindle E books now, but I do love to give books to our small library in my community apartments. My daughter gave them 36 books, and patrons have really enjoyed them. They depend on donations.

    Thanks, Kav, for an interesting Sunday read and for your generous giveaway.

    jacsmi75 at gmail dot com

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    1. I love that you have a little library in your apartment community! And such a blessing for people who can’t get out much or for really bad weather days (though I don’t suppose you have to worry about getting snowed in) And hooray to your daughter for keeping your library well stocked! Good luck, Jackie!

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  14. I don’t really read ebooks or listen to audiobooks, though I am planning on borrowing some from my library this fall, since I’m reading through some series’ that my library has a few books from that I’m missing, but only in that format. We’ll see how it goes! (Also, not sure how many checkouts my library allows on those because, as I said, I don’t generally use those virtual services!)

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    1. So frustrating when the library doesn’t get a whole series in print! That happens a lot with my cozy mystery books and, like you, I’m not a fan of ebooks. Audiobooks are whole other story though! Love them! Good luck, Elly!

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  15. oh but I do love the library. something from my past. mom took us kids to the library once a week. that is how often we would go through books. I did the same for our kids. though every other week. our library used to have times where you could bring in the kids and an adult would read a story. then she would go over some questions at the end. it was always a great time for all. there were always something to do for the kids and separate for the adults. I still prefer paper books. at one time that is all there was. now my granddaughter and great niece love, love books. boy do I love to feed that. LOL

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    1. I love that your mom helped to create a life long reader! And I love that you have continued that legacy into future generations! I have tons of happy childhood library memories too. Good luck, Lori!

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  16. I think I’ve heard of Libby, but didn’t know what it was, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Hoopla before though. You learn something new everyday! 🙂

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  17. My local library is within walking distance. After 14 years our director is retiring next month. She will be greatly missed. The staff is stupendous! I use the inter library loan service quite often. The library is one of my happy places.

    psalm103and138atgmaildotcom

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    1. Libraries are the happiest of places and I love that yours is in walking distance too. I don’t think I’ve ever not lived within walking license of a library — it’s my top moving criteria. 🙂 Good luck, Caryl!

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  18. I moved to a different county a few years ago, and *mumbles very quietly* haven’t gotten a library card yet… I know it’s crazy! The problem is there isn’t a convenient library location for me.🫤 Hopefully I’ll get one before the new year, though.🤞🏻

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  19. I love reading e-books from my library, and they use Libby. They don’t have the title request feature anymore though! When they did have it, they ordered some of my requests. My husband loves listening to books on our long summer road trips, so I get him a few from the library. I love my local library for art, craft, design, and gardening books, and they have a pretty broad inter-library loan system that covers almost all of California.

    colorvibrant at gmail dot com

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    1. Yesssss….gardening books and those big gorgeous design books that cost a fortune. Cookbooks for me too. And Christmas craft books. My library has a huge selection of all — even multiple books on shade gardening. I nearly swooned when I saw that. lol Good luck, Heidi!

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  20. I enjoyed reading your information and the hot chocolate was delicious. I don’t do audio or ebooks. Have a wonderful day. leliamae54(at)aol(dot)com

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  21. Shaved dark chocolate pieces! I hadn’t thought of that one! Y.U.M you’ve got some great ideas there and I am not fussy. I am here for the conversation and mingling so whatever is left, I am in! Is somebody going to bring Brownies? There is quite a variation too. Our library has been at an alternate location since I’ve been here while the home building was being renovated. They are now in the process of moving back. I have a string of books I have hearted on hoopla. Only four are available a month. I, too, lean toward paperbacks to carry with me. I haven’t had a lot of success with Libby having titles I want. So, my question is ~ how do you use it? As far as listening to books, I have a hard time stopping! Kathleen ~ Lane Hill House lanehillhouse(at)gmail(dot)com

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    1. Ohhh, brownies are a great idea. I’ll bring them next week!

      I’ve found Libby doesn’t have as many titles as I want as well. And more ebooks than audiobooks. They tend to get the popular general market fiction books but lately I’ve noticed them picking up some Christian Fiction ebooks which is great, just not for me. I’m super excited about my library joining up with other libraries in the province because I am finding CF audiobooks in their collections. I have a few on hold now from three different libraries. Also, getting more cozy mysteries this way too, so that’s fun. I’m wondering they coordinate with each other and different libraries will focus on different genres/authors to round out a more expansive collection for all their users?

      Libby adds new titles on Tuesdays, so I always check their ‘newest’ section weekly. Earlier this week I went through my wishlist and typed in every title and found a number of them in other library’s collections. I can still only have 20 holds at a time — I have 17 right now. Also noticed a ‘notify me’ button for books that aren’t in anyone’s collection. If you click on it, the library will notify you if they order the book. I’m hoping that will work like when I request print books so, fingers crossed. Nice chatting libraries with you, Kathleen. It will be exciting to see the renovated library when they finally open up! Good luck!

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  22. Ooooo! Thank you for the Hot Chocolate Bar, Kav. I’ll take all the fixings for pure lusciousnes! 😋 Now that I’m all cozy with my delicious drink, I’m ready for the chat. Thank you for all that helpful information. I didn’t know how authors made money in regards to libraries digital ebooks and audiobooks, so this was very interesting. Our library is fantastic! We have interlibrary loan all across Michigan, which is wonderful. We have both Libby and Hoopla. I mainly use Hoopla and it’s awesome. We get 8 checkouts a month. My husband and I both have a Hoopla account using our library cards, so if I run a little short, he’s very kind to let me use some of his checkouts. ☺️ Our library also has a huge book sale every three months. Besides books, you can also buy audiobooks, DVDs, CDs, puzzles, games, video games,etc. Everything is 3/$1 unless specifically marked. It’s an incredible deal and I’ve found many choice treasures! I’m very grateful for all the benefits that our library offers!!

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      1. I totally approve of going all decadent when it comes to hot chocolate! 🙂 Now that’s true love, when a husband gives up some of his hoopla checkouts! I feel a bibliophile swoon coming on! That needs to be written into a book.

        Whoa — I’m gobsmacked at your library sale prices! That’s crazy! Our library system used to hold two gigantic book sales a year but they built a new technical services centre so they have more space and storage and they hold one a month. Unfortunately it’s quite the hike away from me…probably 1 1/2 by multiple buses and then there’s the dilemma of how I’d cart everything I bought back home. Sigh. So I settle for book sale corner in the library which is accessible during library hours. Thanks for the chat, Alison. Good luck!

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